Author: Valery (France), 29-07-2011 21:34 Like bah YOU can't pass because you want to play your map only by the way you imagined:)
I pass in both tan and blue territories using the magic garrisons. I never unlocked the water gates. Once you have armor of damned, the garrisons will inflict little damage. In this way you can eliminate tan and blue in a couple of days, then Tazar.
Author: KingSlayer, 29-07-2011 19:05 Solmyr is stupid Solmyr never pass this Q (55 sp) I never saw that :) And he havent red ten (when we're at that Q)
With the tome, collecting 55 SP is easy. Also we can colect army easy.
I recommend - first get 55sp and all army in castles, then change the tome for AA :)
Other hints are good
3) is meaningless. We need Admiral hat too :) We cannot pass into blue before passing tan's territory
Author: Valery (France), 29-07-2011 17:40 Like hmm >>7.Get 55 spell power with tome of earth (dont change for Angelic aliance, before you get 55 level spell power)
I know you wanted to keep safe the player for exchanging the tome too early, but that quest gate is removed by Solmyr, so is a fail. If you want it to work the way you imagined, you will have to script it manually (check for both tome and 55 SP).
You forgot the "smart player" hints:
1) recruit as soon as you can Saurug, Rissa and Sepinroth (in last version Calid is disabled damn you)
2) Before you get tactics on Orrin, you can recruit a scout with tactics and surrender from Solmyr without any loss
3) Recruit Gem and get her summon boat via a level 1 scholar
4) Don't build angels or cavaliers in the first town, you will lose them for nothing
5) Recruit any +350 gold hero you can find
6) Don't be shy and reload multiple times until you get the hero you want in tavern, it will HELP a lot later
7) Take the orb from Phoenixes before fighting Nagash
8) Wait for Solmyr to cast frenzy on angels and then slaughter them on one turn.
9) Recruit as soon as you can an artillery specialist and take his balista (why pay 50000 gold for it).
Sorry, hehe
Author: Blue Orb (Sofia,Bulgaria), 29-07-2011 11:45 He-he! KS you made me start it for third time, lucky me I haven't much time thesedays to play, so it's a about the end of M1 where I will have to restart. BTW-thanks for the ups, not many mapmakers are wishful to improve their maps that fast and often.
Author: KingSlayer, 28-07-2011 22:59 This is the easy map Some hints. Will be much interesting without this but... as you wish
1.Builds the castles carefully. Check passability to them and developing the necessary
2.Move fast as you can and dont miss any arts
3.When fight with Solmyr your main purpose must be to save more army
4.Cheat Solmyr to save more army (there is many ways)
5.Learn Tactic
6.Get you main castle (you will see behind your garrison)
7.Get 55 spell power with tome of earth (dont change for Angelic aliance, before you get 55 level spell power)
8.Go over the watter (with your 55 sp) and steal Summon boat from tan castle)
9.Quik moving to other sea and get brown ten from blue ai
10.Again go to the tan and destroy him (not necessary, but get his main castle)
11.Get there blue tan
12.Go again into plue ai and get black ten
13.Now will be interesting :)) - You can play as you wish... You may go into the teal ai, may figth with Solmyr...everything!
14.You may going to the final race ONLY if you have the orb, but the orb is in Solmyr. Steal this from him..and you will see whats happen further, it will be easy :)
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Last UP for map. To have bigger score and some little bonuses for smart players. Solmyr is still terrible :)
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Sorry if I losing time of someone. just want to be better challenging.
But still, you have a choice, isnt it :D
Author: Valery (France), 28-07-2011 21:19 Like playable The map is perfectly playable and not impossible. Gives big satisfaction later, the start is not easy. Is this comment better?:)
Author: bigcitymama (greece), 28-07-2011 18:41 hello tried the map and decided to read the comments as i figured out that KS expects from us to do some moves out of the ordinary as to surrender.
but reading the comments did made me loose the need to play the map and even more when i found out that i have to deal with a much more difficult version of it.
anyways congrats for your maps and may you go on.
Author: Sasha (Serbia), 26-07-2011 19:11 Blue Orb OK, Sorry KingSlayer.
Author: Blue Orb (Sofia,Bulgaria), 26-07-2011 18:57 Sasha Please check the original topic, don't want to spam KingSlayer own great map comments.
Author: KingSlayer, 26-07-2011 09:36 nope I played it (long time ago), but I could not finish it
Author: Sasha (Serbia), 26-07-2011 09:06 Question Hi guys, I know it is not a right place to ask but don't know where.
Have any of you passed the following map:
http://www.maps4hero es.com/forum/opinion s.php?map_id=888&gam e=3
It seems it is not passable or I am missing something. It looks very interesting map.
Author: Valery (France), 21-07-2011 22:50 Like update You can update it until it is perfect, if you like.
A few examples of scripts I used in my version, because it makes the game easier navigate:
1) Renaming towns script (so you can town portal easier)
2) I will add green town to become red if Solmyr is defeated (I did not know you added a town)
3) Script to remove "green player" quest gates if Solmyr is defeated, so we can access to towers.
Anyway, with those scripts it was perfect for me, as in previous games was quite hard to town portal once you have 30 towns.
The sharpshooter quest asks for a very long game. I was able to recruit only 50 by the time I won. Oh well:)
Author: KingSlayer, 21-07-2011 22:35 :) Yes, maybe the last solmyr's town must be deleted. There must be a script to never die without town.. but however - I cant up anymore (this is a little) :)
The last my test is 432 score, but for 17 months :) (all visited) With last Solmyr's town must be at least 480
here is it my saves (to orientate how pass novice players)
http://pic-box.net/s aves.rar
Here is it the screens from my last battle :) (very hard really)
http://pic-box.net/p ictures/img_original s/13112721601.jpg
http://pic-box.net/p ictures/img_original s/13112722071.jpg
http://pic-box.net/p ictures/img_original s/13112721881.jpg
Author: Valery (France), 21-07-2011 21:20 Like Advice Just an advice to clever players than me: DO NEVER EXCHANGE your second bow of the sharpshooter, as I did. NEVER!:)
Author: Valery (France), 21-07-2011 21:18 Like End http://img813.images hack.us/img813/1171/ 4452.jpg
Hah, IK would not call it a glorious victory because they slaughtered almost all my army. Congrats, now the ultimate fight is worth its name:)
I sent saves via email. Won in 324 days for a score of 328. A pity the last green town does not become red once Solmyr is dead, the score would be clean.
Excellent updated map. Not for everyone.
Author: Valery (France), 21-07-2011 10:12 Like No loss With Solmyr I had zero loss except the golems (can't resurrect). I destroyed his catapult, then blinded everyone, then cloned all shooters because you did not put a single war factory on the map so shoots are limited.
I fight Solmyr as soon as I can because that's the way, if you let him go further he becomes stronger and we weaker.
The block is an annoying feature, which removes the fights fun. It is not harder, but needs many reloads. A block of 60% is a lot, and goryniches have even 70% block. I also use block in some fights in my maps but not before the human has resurrect and clone, because without them it is a game killer.
Sharps? Who needs them, Tazar can be beat only with shooters and force field. The others with blind/disrupting ray. After Solmyr the game will be easy.
Author: KingSlayer, 21-07-2011 09:33 Solmyr Did you lost many? (Solmyr's battle)
You decide firmly to beat Solmyr early as you can, why? I prefer fight with him later, when Im much stronger - army and primary skills. But you wana the orb I think :)
For golems, his block is 60%, your turn is just unlucky :) With them Im using commander mainly for 1st attack.
Otherwise, you have again strong army - playing absolutely strategic and carefully :)
Wait whats happen with other guys, specially - Tazar and final battle. This time you may use the power of sharps :)
Author: Valery (France), 21-07-2011 07:48 Like Solmyr Solmyr is incredible strong in this version . Here is the save with him dead on 8.2.1. The only way was to exhaust his spell points using 20+ scouts before the battle, then I won with no loss except golems. Very long battle. I have saves from every day if you want to see, King.
http://download1451. mediafire.com/1e517p yjeahg/3eg5g1mg2zjnr nr/Solmyr822.GM1
Author: Valery (France), 20-07-2011 21:39 Like Okay Okay giving up. Those golems blocking 10/10 of attacks annoys me at the point I don't have any fun to continue. The block ability without resurrect is not the way. Sorry, I don't see what is challenging in this, reload save until it hits is not making the game harder.
Author: Valery (France), 20-07-2011 19:20 Like new version I am starting the last one, let's hope. I only added a script which removes all quest gates (6) in front of towers if Solmyr dies, because I don't plan letting him to go so far and I want the towers to get a clean score. This will not change the game. Wish me good luck, no sanctuaries this time!
Author: KingSlayer, 19-07-2011 09:20 Solmyr Можна продолжит игре. Без него просто будет легче :)
Author: edu1967 (Moscow, Russia), 19-07-2011 05:05 Like The Lost Humanity Solmir и все зеленые герои умерли на 4 месяц 2 неделю,пос
Author: Valery (France), 19-07-2011 03:24 Like ok So, I will be the first to create a 252x252 map then? ;)
I have the patch.
Author: KingSlayer, 19-07-2011 01:21 harder but still interesting and more The sanctuaries is OK. You dont need of them, Im sure :)
There is many changes for much thinking and best gaming.
Solmyr will follow you near to the end. The battle with him will almost impossible, but if you diddle your turns properly he will be down.
And there is a many bonuses for Orin, if playing properly again :)
The others AI also are big problems.
Final turn also.
Im just wana this map to be really challenging, not just interesting
Hah I would make another (using the experience of the previous), but I havent time anymore. This finish (february was ready, but it was necessary 5 months more lol) only because Im a big stubborn and fan, and of course with your playing and help such like Valery's succor
But I will still playing, every week :) There is awesome maps and I hope fans like me to not stoping makes maps, better and better
Author: Greenhell (Bulgaria), 19-07-2011 00:49 Of course This makes perfect sense since now you wont be able to hold Solmyr at castle 2.
He will follow you to numero 3 and 4 and 5.
There's a sanctuary at castle numero 5:)
Should be a lot harder now.
Author: Valery (France), 18-07-2011 22:30 Like Yep Yep, he removed the sanctuaries so basically all the creatures you build in the first 4 months will be instantly destroyed by Solmyr before you can even move. :)
Now it is hard, but not sure still fun, heh
But I had a lot of fun with the previous versions, tried almost everything, I even got 50 000 liches for last battle.
Author: KingSlayer, 18-07-2011 22:22 :) 10x green :)
There is a update (wait to Up soon)
a big 10x to Valery AGAIN! Help me much with some scripts and ideas
Sorry for this UP, but I want this map to be a perfect (now it is) you know why :)
Author: Greenhell (Bulgaria), 18-07-2011 18:59 10 King Slayer for president!!
Finished in 15 months and 1 week on 200%
Sweet sweet map.
Valery is right about Solmyr ans Nagash
being too dumb and Solmyr never leaving the second castle.But if he did would we be able to win?
Actually I don't care at all about winning as far as map is challenging enough.
Author: Valery (France), 14-07-2011 20:28 Like last version I am playing the last version you uploaded and it is even easier:)
This time I got town portal, all castle towns + Solmyr + 3 ramparts 6.4.1. Unfortunately it is too easy to confuse AI using the sanctuaries, even if they are far. Solmyr never quited the second town and was too preoccupied to flag the mine which I constantly took every turn again and again. AI is dumb.
Author: Valery (France), 13-07-2011 21:12 Like Have you? Take a look at last version of Alexander (just play first turn). I implemented a "difficulty internal settings", and from now, I will include it to any map. In this way, anyone can finish it, from beginner to advanced.
I think that all wog maps should have those settings. For example, in yours player could choose before the game if Solmyr has pathfinding/tactics, if Alamar is available, if Golems have block etc etc.
Just let me know if you are interested by such options, I can make them very fast. It is always rewarding to know that your maps can suit any level of play. More players, more motivation.
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