The map intended only for advanced and highly advanced players. Even in this case there is no guarantee that you will win.
Some monsters can speak bad English, some events and signs may help you too (not necessarily). The game consists of chains of sequential events - the faster you move through the game the harder it gets. For example, once you kill Untouchable, you will be hit by a storm of very strong enemies. It would be easier for you to accumulate an army. But don’t sit still, or else the final bosses will be able to gain incredible power.
It will be the longest and fascinating or the shortes and most inglorious journey of all time. Well, good luck with it!!!
-Are you ready, kids?
-Aye-aye, captain!
-I can't hear you!
-Aye-aye, captain!
Map contains a large number of non-standard quests. There are no time-bound enemies. When you defeat a tripwire character, a chain of events is triggered, Clone, Berserk, DD, Fly are only available in the underworld. Eagle Eye and Scholar are blocked, Play only at the IMPOSSIBLE level.
Author: Sulim81 (Poland), 12-05-2024 15:55 Done - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens Finished the map. What can I say? I am totally exhausted. I gave up several times and then came back, trying different tactics. It is like a drug, was worth to wait since Christmas. Now I understand what Wasilix wrote about few maps combined in one.
32167 writes:
12-05-2024 19:27
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Hi Sulim, thank you so much for your feedback! I’m very glad you managed to finish the map and it left a pleasant impression. From now on, I’ll be more careful about the timing of the new maps releasing :)
I plan to make "easier" version 2.5 (multiplayer/with allies) of this map. So, it would be interesting to understand which moments of the game were liked and which should be excluded from new version.
Thank you one more time!
Sulim81 (Poland) writes:
13-05-2024 10:31
Feedback - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens
Hello,
In my personal opinion, please treat it as such, there are only small few things, which I found decreasing pleasure a little bit:
1. Too much artifacts - I spent dozens of minutes on exchanging them between heroes, to empty slots.
2. All areas fulled with gold, where each step you need to pick up one - like area with shackles of war huts or Sweet Home - just too much clicking, it gets really boring and frustrating after some time.
3. All areas where you can exchange creatures - I haven't even bother too visit them,firstly - I did't need it, secondly - see point 2 above :) . It is interesting idea, but these parts of map could be utilized better with something making game longer.
4.Area with shackles of war huts- I had enough of them to buff my hero above 90 stats just from the fights, so didn't explore it, except the way to portal to underworld. It is similar to point 3 - could be utilized better. It could be a good source of Liches later in the game, but after clearing all Azure Dragons traps, you do not care about these small quantities anymore.
Thank you very much once again for amazing map.
32167 writes:
13-05-2024 18:50
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Hi Sulim,
Thanks for your help! I'll introduce adjustments to the new version of the map and for new maps!
Author: yela (Bucharest), 10-05-2024 00:07 day 1 - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens I can't get past day one, I just don't have the movement speed to get the ore and lumber to build magic guild to get slow, what am I doing wrong?
wasilix writes:
10-05-2024 08:02
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You are probably taking too many steps diagonally. Try taking as many steps horizontally or vertically as reasonable and you'll be able to pick up both piles, both scholars, 1 pandora box and get back in time to take a town.
32167 writes:
10-05-2024 10:15
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I moved the tree a little to the side in the latest version of the map. Now there are only steps for one scholar. In the previous version there was half a step in reserve. It was such the freedom of action :)
wasilix writes:
10-05-2024 14:32
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Ah, I see. So you need to skip the scholar for earth magic then and take artillery on your 1st turn.
Author: Slawek (Poland), 09-05-2024 11:36 xD - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens Hey, stupid question... How to survive the first day? haha How to defeat sandro? I'm not seeing something?
Author: Pawel, 08-05-2024 00:36 kyrre - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens Hello, exit where? I can land either on bone dragons or azure dragons.
wasilix writes:
08-05-2024 07:46
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If I recall correctly you need to use waterwalk hero to move around and a hero on a ship to adjust the movement trajectory of your 1st hero to help him avoid ambushes.
Author: 32167, 07-05-2024 21:57 :) - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens Hello, you need a loyal helper in the water to get around the fire. Remember, don’t step on fire and go to the water. The Azure dragons (the ones under the clouds) are guarding the exit.
Author: Pawel, 07-05-2024 21:24 kyrre - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens Yes this is the case! Thanks for that. Is that the only bug in first version as I'm stuck again? I have 3200MP and I miss one step to get there. Or maybe I can't see something?
Author: Art, 07-05-2024 00:43 thanks - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens yes you are right thanks mate!
Author: 32167, 07-05-2024 00:18 -- - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens I guess you didn’t get him a friend... He stayed right outside the gate, near the book.
Author: wasilix, 07-05-2024 00:05 Like - - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens Hmm... Equip the orb and use forgetfulness on titans.
Author: 32167, 07-05-2024 00:04 :( - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens I think you downloaded the version with the bug of the hydra event (the first day after it was uploaded).
To avoid replaying the beginning of the map, use the cheat code nwcneo several times to raise the level of the hero. Enter it several times and the basic level will become expert.
Author: Pawel, 06-05-2024 23:45 Kyrre - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens There is no hydras in my version but I have got orb. However forgetfulness is not working on titans.
Author: Art, 06-05-2024 23:36 3 titans aislin - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens I have just 1 halflings (hydras beaten and i have orb). WTF?
Author: wasilix, 06-05-2024 23:23 Like - - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens There is a fountain right above this fight. You'll need to beat 2 hydras or something like that, and after that you need to step above the fountain - you'll be given an orb of vulnerability
Author: Pawel, 06-05-2024 23:10 Kyrre - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens How on earth can I beat 3 titans with two halflings?
Author: wasilix, 06-05-2024 13:27 Like - - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens Hint: you need to let your arrow towers to deal with his dragons :) They'll need some help from you.
Author: 32167, 06-05-2024 13:26 A little tip - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens Hey, the first day of the first part playthrough is very similar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-6ti9nJXMI&list=PL02MwI3vxw6kr7RUjU27D3chxWVOvLnvK
Author: Slawek (Poland), 06-05-2024 11:42 xD - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens Hey, stupid question... How to survive the first day? haha How to defeat sandro? I'm not seeing something?
Pawel writes:
08-05-2024 00:39
kyrre - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens
I found the solution no bother :)
Sulim81 (Poland) writes:
08-05-2024 00:43
Exit - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens
Your destiantion is to the right. You can work this way or try my way - I have just passed crystal dragon to hero in tavern, cancel Kyrre and rebuy him from water tavern, so he can sail to the right. Then you land in top right corner and just water walk to portal.
32167 writes:
08-05-2024 00:52
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Put the hero on the water so that the other character’s trajectory changes. Then the second hero will bypass the fire and land on the water.
It will take several times to lead the hero to the exit (on the far right)
Pablo (Russia) writes:
08-05-2024 03:11
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Can not understand anything.Your arrow goes through the event with azures.leaving the tavern on the water there is nowhere to land.
Pablo (Russia) writes:
08-05-2024 03:23
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It’s clear, I took all the heroes outside the first tavern, my mistake
Author: necokpylllumblu, 06-05-2024 01:41 "Cloak of the King of Evil" - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens this card is passed if only skeletons rise on the "Cloak of the King of Evil"? Lychees do not rise version HotA 1.7.1
wasilix writes:
06-05-2024 09:48
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FWIW I tested 1.7.1 and it gives liches with expert necromancy, so you are probably playing with tournament rules enabled.
However, the map is rather too easy with necromancy regardless of CoUK giving liches or skeletons. It doesn't matter in about 1st half of the map as you can't get the most out of your necromancy until you can convert your skeletons to something more useful.
It was completable without necromancy. At very least I'm 100% sure it should be easy enough with just skellies from necromancy.
PS: in case if you are hoping to use the cloak that blocks Grim Reaper, just give up - you'll have to hand it in along with abandoning anything you generate with it. You'll get access to CoUK much later.
Author: 32167, 05-05-2024 13:08 :) - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens The map with the corrected error has been uploaded to the website.
Thanks again!
Author: wasilix, 05-05-2024 11:01 Like Player tester note - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens I've been privileged to play test this map several months ago.
Simply put, I loved it. The version I played became a bit tedious in the end, but I see that major issues were addressed in this version.
Look at this beautiful minimap! Pure pleasure just looking at it :)
The map has several phases, which all could be their own maps (in fact, some were), but instead nicely combined in one. There is no hard time limit, but endgame bosses gain substantial army every week and by the time you arrive they are pretty scary even if you are relatively fast. Better not waste too much time waiting.
This map is a rollercoaster. At one point everything is calm and then I'm getting invaded from all sides, losing all towns but one, trying to regain my ground. My personal favorite was the phase after killing Untouchable.
Enemies are strong but what's important is that most of them possess nice artefacts like the ring of oblivion, power of the dragon father, etc. It makes for much more interesting fights. End game became a bit too forcefield-heavy for my taste though, but for me it's still much better than berserk-heavy like many other maps tend to become by the end. End game bosses were re-worked since I played, and became a bit more interesting as far as I can tell.
You have access to necromancy from early on with your starting hero, and later get another one with wisdom which you can develop the way you want. Necromancy can be utilized very well even before you get CoUK much later in the game. In case you play for too long, CoUK may be your last resort to catch with bosses. They are not required though and the map is doable without liches from CoUK. It's great that it's available late in the game.
One of the highlights for me was the ability to convert any creature to any other creature. Unfortunately, in the version I played it was a bit too tedious to do it many times over, so I mainly stuck with the same army, but it was made easier since then, and players can experiment with army as much as they wish. Imagine converting 1M+ of liches you got from CoUK into something else. That'd be glorious. Unfortunately, it will take some time even though it was made easier in current version, but there is a limit to what editor allows to do in terms of numbers.
Opening phase may make you believe that you will be playing necro in this map, but it's not the case (at least for the majority of the map). In fact I suggest you to get away from that area as fast as you can. You'll need mines from this area to boost your next phase, but that's it. You won't be able to take any army with you, and even likely you will change your main hero at that point (meaning that stat boosts are of lower priority).
Transition from phase 1 to 2 is a nice puzzle, which starts with a cool idea that I didn't see before: you get to choose your main faction in the mid of the map :) I picked Cove, which I think is the strongest choice, but I didn't play other factions.
It took 4 months of playing on-and-off on evenings to beat this map. That's a lot of time, so gather up your patience and be prepared to run and fight for your life :)
Definitely recommend this map to anyone who enjoyed the 1st map and anyone looking for challenge. In my opinion, it's well worth playing for the sake of all nice ideas put into it.
I recorded my test playthrough, which I will make public much later to avoid unnecessary spoilers too early after the map being published.
Cheers!
Author: Sulim81 (Poland), 05-05-2024 10:52 Strange - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens I was able to move forward even without this event, probably depends where you go out from portal. Propose to save the game before entering and try several times, there are two options where you can just continue (one exit needs orb of vurnelability and armor of the damned- I used this one , second is clear as far as I can see in map editor).
Author: Sulim81 (Poland), 05-05-2024 10:49 Question - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens Dear author, should I keep necro Gelu as a main hero or I can choose another character later on? He has no wisdom and no archery.
wasilix writes:
05-05-2024 12:53
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Not mapmaker, but you don't have to use your initial hero. Moreover you are free to change your main hero as you please.
Author: 32167, 05-05-2024 02:27 Thank you very much - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens It really doesn't work... Tomorrow I’ll solve this problem. Now I see only one solution - use cheat code to raise the level of the hero (until you get expert water magic).
Press tab, then type nwcneo (the currently selected hero gains 1 level).
Thank you very much for finding that mistake!
Author: necokpylllumblu, 05-05-2024 01:21 "Cloak of the King of Evil" - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens this card is passed if only skeletons rise on the "Cloak of the King of Evil"? Lychees do not rise version HotA 1.7.1
32167 writes:
05-05-2024 03:23
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Thanks, I didn't know that fact.
It doesn’t matter to this map. But it will destroy some of the other maps presented on this site...
wasilix writes:
05-05-2024 09:39
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I would assume, that it's because you are playing with tournament rules On.
Author: Pablo (Russia), 05-05-2024 00:42 ... - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens Event 53 53 dont work, stuck
Pablo (Russia) writes:
06-05-2024 00:02
hmmm - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens
2 halflings against 3 titans, how could you go further? Without water magic expert o_O
Event 53 53 solve this problem… The correct version has been uploaded this morning. To avoid replaying the beginning of the map, use the cheat code nwcneo several times to raise the level of the hero. Enter it several times and the basic level becomes expert. It will not spoil further game playthrough.
Sulim81 (Poland) writes:
06-05-2024 02:10
Bug - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens
I play my way. When I take CoUK I do nut run with it immediately to open board guard. I take my time and farm liches (computer hero is running around and conquer my Necropolis, it is is easy to play with him) - clear vampires guarding prison, black knight area, so at the end I enter this area with almost 10 000 power liches, so I am able to take book of earth magic. I was able to move to Cove area this way with tones of liches, but time was very tight, computer hero had already entered two way blue portal area.
32167 writes:
06-05-2024 04:01
bug - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens
Sulim, hello! It's a great bug!!! Thanks!!! I’ve already found a solution and I’ll update the map tomorrow morning. When you break out of the necro zone, please get rid of the liches completely and continue playthrough.
32167 writes:
06-05-2024 14:11
the bug has been completely eliminated - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens
The map has been updated. Now the cloak trick won’t work :) If you went this way earlier, please dismiss the liches and do not use the necromancer after leaving necro zone.
Author: Sadness, 04-05-2024 15:42 So bad map - Battlejuice 2 Delirium furens A very bad card... Computer tasks aimed at killing you. The game starts with your humiliation. Where is hardcore here, if it's not hardcore, but rather a mockery of the player?
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