Heroes3 - Your opinions about Portishead - map rating = 18 Likes

Incredible map - Portishead

Ahoj, není vůbec zač. Hrál jsem verzi 1.5, protože už jsem to měl delší dobu uložený v PC, a nějak mě nenapadlo se před začátkem hraní kouknout, jestli nevyšel update. Ale na hratelnost to vliv nemělo, s tím žádný problém nebyl. Co mi problém dělalo byl samozřejmě začátek, ten jsem opakoval asi 5x, ale tam se s tím tak nějak počítá :) Jinak popisky byly napsaný fajn, dalo se z nich celkem dobře pochopit co dělat, tajný cesty taky zajímavě udělaný, o texturách se ani bavit nebudu, ty jsou naprostá bomba...prostě parádní mapa, díky!

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Portishead - Portishead

Myslím že současná verze je i o něco lehčí, takže super že jsi to prošel. Jinak začátek je na YT jsou tam i dva pěkné průchody celou mapou. Každopádně jestli jsi zvládl začátek bez nápovědy klobouk dolů, některé komentáře co jsem četl na YT, psaly že je ten start pěkně crazy:)

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Incredible map - Portishead

Snažil jsem se všechny tvoje mapy hrát bez návodů i editoru, a většinou se mi to myslím povedlo. Ale párkrát jsem mrknout musel, když jsem třeba minul artefakt co není vidět na mapě, ten se pak zpětně hledá hodně těžko... :D A začátek se mi líbil, člověk jen musel pochopit co dělat, pak už to šlo.

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Portishead - Portishead

Ano editor až v nouzi i já takhle hraji, ale občas je nutné to zkontrolovat:) Ještě jednou dík za koment a koukni na pokračování až vyjde.

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Incredible map - Portishead

Určitě si ho zahraju, už se těším ;)

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:) - Portishead

This is a horn of the abyss (hota) map. Hota is a heroes of might and magic 3 addon. Google horn of the abyss, download and install it. Now you can play all hota maps.

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It works! - Portishead

Thanks a lot! And now I get why I needed the GOG version :)

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Mephala - Portishead

Ahoj dík za lajk a gratuluji že jsi mapu prošel, myslím že to moc lidí nezvládlo:)
Ten souboj s Mephalou je na YT posílám link zadej to bez té mezery tady se to nedá napsat jako přímí odkaz a začíná někde v čase 1h36m.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGGwDrMB394&list=PL02MwI3vxw6msW-ej5Mbt2DoOFWZOUcUV&index=11

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díky - Portishead

Díky moc, fakt super mapa, stejně jako ty Tvé ostatní, které jsem zkoušel. Jak dlouho jsi to vytvářel? Díky za odkaz, možná využiju, i když budu se snažit využít poslední vylepšovák - ve vesničkách před samotným Portishead jsem našel berserek, takže úroveň obtížnosti toho boje klesla :-) Zkusím, jakmile to kolem Portishead vyčistím, před finálním bojem.

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Berserk? - Portishead

Ty jsi tam našel berserk? Ten tam být nemá asi je to chyba:) Nevadí klidně to zkus a potom se podívej na odkaz takto bych to nikdy nesehrál. Mapu jsem dělal průběžně celou zimu, takže i s testováním možná 4-5 měsíců.
Už mám hotové pokračování nyní se testuje a ladí tak můžeš potom vyzkoušet.

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Mephala - Portishead

Nj. už jsem pochopil. Mepha musí mit Dračího otce, při pokusu mi nakopala z...takže berserek je k ničemu. Mrknu na návod. Kouzlo bylo v jedné z těch vesniček za teleportem, možná rovnou v té první. Myslel jsem, že je to nástroj pro tu poslední vlnu bojů :-) Budu se těšit na další díl. Máš to opravdu skvěle propracované.

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You aren't supposed to fight him until much later - Portishead

You're supposed to evade him and a few other heroes until you get much stronger, you have to give up your main towns

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бред - Portishead

как обычно -который раз встречаю карту , где нужно бросить все города, уйти куда-то непонятно куда, потом накопить кучу войск и вернуться обратно , типо я такой крутой-это какая-то фикс идеячто ли при создании карт у вас такая? Не осуждаю, у каждого в голове что-то своё и свои идеи. Вопрос-есть какие-то карты: градостроительный, накапливаешь войска, исследуешь карты, выполняешь квесты, противник если и атакует тебя агрессивно, то по крайнем мере не все сразу, либо тогда разграничение проходами по цветам и палатками ключников, что если ты открыл палатку, значит уж будь любезен воюй, а так сиди и не лезь пока не станешь более менее готов-в этом плане карта -путь геральта, бог войны идеальны

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:) - Portishead

Под такое описание подходят почти все топовые олдскульные карты: the lord of war, wayfarer, jedi story, the empire of the world 1,2

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Tricky 1st week - Portishead

There's a play through on youtube, the first week was probably the trickiest part of the whole map. I forget exactly, but you have to do everything in the correct sequence

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Wrong assumption. - Portishead

No, I am playing version 1.8. It is still broken (see my comment above).

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JPEG - Portishead

Trying to improve the image quality by attaching a JPEG instead of a PNG file.

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:) - Portishead

only because you cant defeat a strong opponent doenst mean the map is broken.
the amount of your army is a bit to small for the 8th month but should still be doable. but there is no info about your stats, secondary skills, luck/morale bonuses, artifacts and so on..
this absolutely doenst look like its unbeatable. you have to try around with different artifacts/spells/moves combinations. also some tricky stuff with frenzy or forcefield in the corner of the battlefield is possible. there is almost always a way.
if you want you can upload your savegame somewhere and post a link here. i will play it for you, make a video and then you can play it by yourself.

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- - Portishead

@Graf

I appreciate you feeling bad, but it's not the matter of the map, but the fact that you seem to be trying the same strategy over and over again and expecting different result. As sphinxx mentioned above a couple of options for you consider changing, those are personally a bit too cheesy (luck dependent), but they can still work. Here are some more suggestions:

1. Use different troops. You should have access to phoenixes at this point if I recall correctly, they are the best filler troop. Using many non-filler troops is rarely benefitial for your war effort. Generally you only need 1-3 fighting stacks and the rest is filler.
2. Generally it's the easiest to fight as an attacker in a siege, wonder if you even tried it (can't deduce from your writing). It doesn't have issues related to blind for example.
3. You say that AI casts nasty spells like teleport, cure, etc. Well, try tricking it. If you don't use 5 shooter stacks and instead you use just 1-2 and use ground or filler troops to shield them you'll find out that AI has very predictable approach to using a teleport and that you can manipulate it into not using it.
4. You said cure, not sure if you mentioned dispel there, but people tend to confuse the 2 anyway. I think you may have access to the orb of permanence at this point, which you definitely should equip and use mainly artefacts/spells boosting your own troops besides blinding the enemy. For whatever reason AI doesn't consider the blind to be worth using the dispel or cure, but often may use those to remove slow for example.

There are so many ways to play and win the game. I said I understand your feeling, because I also keep making this same mistake myself over and over again sometimes thinking that I've tried everything and nothing worked whereas in reality at best I only theorized about some options and never gave them a shot (or even worse simply didn't consider most obvious ways to solve the fight).

Trust me, the enemy on the screenshot can be done 12 ways from sunday, you just need to start doing other things to do it, because your current thing doesn't work.

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:) - Portishead

@wasilix: you dont have the sphere of permance at this moment but that shouldnt be a problem.
@graf: i forgot to mention one important thng - fight against hugo and boss in the cove near the stables and not in other towns. because here you have only one arrow tower which makes it easier to blind enemies creatures.

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Thanks! - Portishead

Not done yet, but I appreciate these styles of maps - Merry Christmas and all the best for the New Year for you too!

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No continue! - Portishead

No wait, it's a catch! :) Continue below the Fortress where you defeated Gird is the Seers Hut, build a ship there and go right through the jungle.
Question: what month did you free Giselle?

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Ah! - Portishead

Ah, now I understand, you want
keep the book of fire magic :) it's not necessary, you can do it without it, but what do you think :)

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Where enemy got their gold - Portishead

I think this is where a slow playthrough makes it harder - one of the enemies had access to a dwarven treasury, and at a point their gold overflowed, so they had more than enough! They probably financed the necro army merger...

I am not the best Heroes3 player, but I am determined (also searching for a tavern so I can wear down the enemy with armageddon - there must be a reason you gave it to us!)

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:) - Portishead

Only orange has access to tresuries. Don't know to what extent the ai can push the resources back and forth. Yes, enemies army will be bigger if you play slowly but yours should grow too. And no, there is no tavern on the map and Armageddon won't help you much.

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-- - Portishead

I've been thinking about it all day :)
The Necro numbers don't go to my head, but I take it as a fact.
Playing very slowly will inevitably lead to Ai having more and more money as time goes by, and the remaining treasures will accumulate these funds multiple times. And in the end, Ai splits them up. Which happened during your game. As sphinxx writes, the player should have an increasingly large army against time, but there is one fact that a slow (weaker) player will have big losses. And that doesn't compare to that. I confess that I did not think of this complication.
Well, this map must be playable even for slower players, although I don't like to prepare another update. Was there anything else that complicated your game? Thanks for the opinions!

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- - Portishead

Вам нужен кулон. Судя по вашему описанию, скорее всего вы не пробили Йога или пропустили его (сразу направо после того, как сели в лодку в землях варваров). Через него вы выйдете к кулону.

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:) - Portishead

думаю йога она пробила но не заметила что там еще есть скрытый проход над подземными воротами

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- - Portishead

No need to rage quit. First, you can fight him at any time. Second, just try doing it without ironfist or aotd. You'll notice that he's much less likely to dispel.

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:) - Portishead

try with armor of the damned but without forgetfullness, only with blind.
but you have to let one shooting unit unblinded otherwise he will cast dispel.

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hey - Portishead

hey guys, thanks for the feedback and moral support! i managed to kill that basterd yesterday, i spent 1 hour on constant replay of that single combat. forgetfulnes was a must to cast first, because any of his shooting stacks would delete the best of my army (sharpshooters). i listened to wasil and i didnt use combination artifacts, AI did use dispell/cure anyway, but it was in later round when i already had him. honestly, if i remember correctly, it was simple luck which gave me the win - enemy skipped one turn cause of moral (it didnt happen in previous battle attemps, no idea why it happened in last try, i didnt have antimoral artifacts equipped) and i managed to get "free" additional round for crucial blind. i was very very upset, i tried many many combination of spells/artifacts, but AI had answer to everything, resurrecting his shooters to attack my sharpshooters with 0 defense (because of frenzy), teleporting, cloning, dispelling my force field etc. when i hear people underestimating expert water magic... it was not only army difference, just compare our att/def/sp and you will understand my pain. when i watch your battle clips it looks smooth for you, but it was a nightmare for me. sorry for my initial post, my head was hot and i saw comments here saying some fights should be harder, so i detonated. i havent finished map yet, currently on month 11 and about 1/4 of the map is still uncovered, so i guess i need few months more and probably more battles like this untill the end. it is impossible to play this map without consulting map editor, not only because of secret passages, but also map objects can be misleading, like for example 130-106 (not a city), or 246-196 (not a whirlpool), underworld locations are not synchronizated with world map... extremely low luck/moral bonus buildings close to cities, low resource mines, low gold income and hard gold management (city without even town hall / decision on which units to invest), rough terrain (swamps, even with pathfinding and/or boots i need 3-5 days to collect units), 80% of sea chests was empty so its a waste of movement to take them... i have a feeling that greatly respected author of this map created this one for sadistic reasons :) my hard disk will die soon because of autosave files for this map.

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Uff, uff uff :) - Portishead

Hi Asylum, I have to say that you are treating me well :)
First of all, I think it's a big player mistake to let Gelu go on an unknown journey without giving him all the spells with Astra. On the other hand, I understand the frustration when you find out after hard work that you have to go back.
We have already dealt with that situation here and the WW spell has been added to Rampart, so you don't have to go back until you meet Astra, but you only need to go back to the moment when you got on the ship with Gelu and take the spell from the city.
Hole: the hole is there on purpose, because if you could land again the whole following quest would be pointless and it would break the story.
This whole map is very complex and almost everything here has a purpose (meaning) and it's not okay to ignore anything because it can backfire.
Anyway, I will do one more update and put the WW spell in the place where Gelu will definitely need it.
I just hope that Evgenij will not send me to the appropriate places :)

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thx - Portishead

Hi Don, thanks for the Like! Cheers:)

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thx - Portishead

Thanks for the Like, I'm glad you liked the map.

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:) - Portishead

Hi Marco, I'm glad you liked the map. Cheers!

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:) - Portishead

Hi Martin, I'm glad you liked the map. Cheers!

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