Author: Valdemar (Kyiv, Ukraine), 10-09-2017 23:03 Like guest - Les prйmices de lApocalypse First of all many thanks to author for his job!
As I see he has spent a lot of time to create this map with good story (even you don’t French :)
I was really satisfied by that map!
You may beat this map very easy in different way:
1) or to kill very early La Discorde (it was my 1-st try on date 2-1-3). But I’ve discovered only 20% of map so I was not satisfied that way :) To void this you should let La Discorde to survive
2) to open the brown gate for La Discorde, and ‘push’ on him. He will get YOUR boat and sail way to north, open the white guard for pink and brown hero. So you can grab north part of the map and (MORE important!) to visit to white tent.
3) or to capture “Sanctuaire” and move to east way, where you will kill crystal dragons and visit to RED tent.
After 2 or 3 scenario you will have an access to RED location. I’ve exempted all monster heroes with their legions. So it all was mine! And only after I’ve killed La Discorde.
Few spoilers and advices:
1) to move on the map ASAP. You can beat green and other heroes very early (2-nd month), because they don’t have army against you,
2) I’ve prepared few additional heroes: Tazar with great defense, Andra with Intelligence skill etc. All of them were leveled up on legions of champions and knights. So very many targets were done in parallel by different heroes.
3) very recommended to get Town Portal ASAP. You may do it next way: to send developed hero (in my case it was Tazar 27-th level with 600 mana) to your Dark Blue fiend. You can dismiss or leave the battlefield, and buy Tazar in Aramanths city, to kill 9 hydras with ONE gnoll, take a boat and free a hero from a prison who knows town portal. But for this you should kill 1000 knights one more time by ONE gnoll :) (and of course earth elementals :) As soon as know town portal it’s all be very fast and easy.
4) you may visit at first day all tents and dismiss Korik and Zifnad at 1-st day. They will not be used but occupy 2 slots, so you will operate by 8 heroes instead of 6.
The main problem is a time and management! I’ve spent 10 minutes for planning and 30 minutes just for one day (because of 10-14 heroes with town portal). It was complicated…
Author: George, 26-04-2017 00:38 review - Les prйmices de lApocalypse Imo, map has a lot of room for improving. It would be good if
1) La Discorde would find his way to red castles instead waiting for other red heroes to find brown keymaster tent.
2) Block other red heroes from entering players teritory. Its depressive when you want to explore the map but red heroes with high stats and legion of army invade... Place them in castle ffs.
Its mitigating circumstance is conquering Stronghold town Tomon. With its army is possible defeating green and pink.
Author: Nicolas (Nanterre, France), 22-03-2015 15:34 Like Many bugs Okay, let's go for a little review. I've played this map four times, now, and won it two different ways... and I dare say that, although it's still a very interesting one, it has, unfortunately, many flaws...
First, the positive aspects.
- the story is really well thought, and very enjoyable to read and follow (well, one has to understand French to really enjoy it, but...)
- the scenario is pretty good, contains funny surprises, and some fights are real problems worth a good deal of thinking to be solved and won. ^^
- when played properly, the army one has at the end can be, at will, really huge (if you want to ^^) or just the decent size that is sufficient to beat "La Discorde"
The flaws:
- Korik (the barbarian hero that is stuck underground) can be totally blocked by the randomly appearing creatures... he he: yep, by the time you get the 99999 mercury you need to free him, stacks can appear on his way to Zifnab's prison, preventing his army to be strong enough to beat the one archdevil he needs to beat to access this prison.
- La Discorde, as I already stated in my very first comment (the one about which I offered myself a rant because it has been translated in English without my consent... XD ), can be blocked by troops and beeaten very early in the game, frustrating completely the player from the entire game.
- ...but at the same place, the very one where La Discorde can be blocked during the second week of the game, there is a trap (I've checked it on the Map Editor): un bunch of Phoenixes awaits in an event that can be triggered only by... La Discorde. And when it happens, La Discorde DISAPPEARS FROM THE GAME!!!!! Beaten by the phoenixes, it is eradicated, an never re-hired by the red player. And THAT is a major - no: THE major flaw.
Because even if the map description says "... you can as well defeat all enemies", it isn't at all possible... why? because of one pink castle at the north of the map, which is really totally unreachable, unless one uses fly, dimension doors, or possess the Angel Wings artifact. But none of these exists in the game...
- but the final and main flaw of the map is its length. Not forncently all the time, notice it... but of you are unlucky, the NHP can take a VEEEEEEEEEEERY long time to effectively trigger the events they are supposed to trigger... (open certain colors border gates or quest gates that they are supposed to open, take certain towns, appear on certain parts of the game...) And it leads us back to our first problem: the longer you waiter, the higher the chance to see Korik stuck by randomly appeared stacks of creatures. ^^
Anyway, good one!
Nicolas (Nanterre, France) writes:
23-03-2015 13:19
...just realised...
...that I criticized the fact that one can not really "free" Korik... but the 4 times I won the map, I NEVER used Korik. I always managed to reach "La Discorde" without even moving him... XD
Author: Nicolas (Nanterre, France), 21-03-2015 13:38 Like ...traduction!!!?!?? ...Heu!!!
Mon commentaire precedent était rédigé en francais!!! Puis-je savoir qui a pris la liberte de le traduire en anglais!!!? Vous auriez au moins pu me demander la permission! De plus, la personne qui a fait cela n'est manifestement pas anglophone: c'est n'importe quoi. Merci a l'avenir de ne plus vous permettre ce genre d'incartades.
ENGLISH VERSION:
...er!!!
My previous comment was written in French (on purpose)!!! May I know who took the freedom to translate it in English!!!? You could at least have asked me the authorization to do so! in addition, the person who did that is manifestly NOT english born: what you've done is almost nonsense. Thanks, in the future, NOT to allow oneself this kind of interferences.
Nicolas (Nanterre, France) writes:
21-03-2015 14:09
rectificatif...
...j'avais vire les accents, aussi... mais la, le correcteur d'orthographe s'en est mele, et je n'ai pas fait suffisamment attention.
Donc, au début, il faut bien sur lire:
" j'avais rédige mon precedent commentaire en francais!!!"
Nicolas (Nanterre, France) writes:
21-03-2015 14:10
...rebelote...
...decidement, ce correcteur d'orthographe est tres chiant, quand il s'y met... JE REPRENDS:
"j'avais redige (etc, etc)"
Valery (Lyon, France) writes:
21-03-2015 21:22
mon vieux
Je ne sais pas comment ça se fait que ton commentaire ait viré en anglais, mais en tout cas, ce site est russo-anglophone. Tu vois quelque part quelque chose en français? pas moi. Donc il serait normal que tout le monde utilise soit l'anglais, soit le russe, pour que chacun puis suivre. Enfin, par chacun je pense aux personnes assez éduqués pour comprendre l'anglais. Elles se font rares, surtout en France, c'est dommage.
Nicolas (Nanterre, France) writes:
22-03-2015 05:28
...quelle reponse constructive...
Et puis, avant de me dire qu'il n'y a rien en francais sur ce site, lis voir, pour rigoler, les deux commentaires précédent les miens. Et puis le descriptif de la carte, tant qu'a faire, aussi... il est vachement anglais.
Et merci pour la partie sur les personnes assez eduquees pour comprendre l'anglais... c'est extremement respectueux et pas du tout meprisant, ni hautain ou dédaigneux. Et non, je ne me sens pas vise: essaie juste de trouver mes autres commentaires, la aussi juste pour rigoler (je suis bilingue fr-ang)
Maintenant, plus serieusement, soit tu as la reponse a ma question, et tu apportes quelque chose a la discussion, soit non, et dans ce cas, le mieux serait sans doute de t'abstenir. D'autant que si tu le relis plus attentivement, tu verras que la raison de mon coup de gueule n'a rien a voir avec le francais ou l'anglais, mais bien avec le fait qu'un commentaire avait ete modifie sans demande d'autorisation a son auteur, ni meme que celui-ci en ait ete informe. Ce qui, tu me le concederas, est un chouilla plus genant.
Et oui, si tu veux, je peux traduire cette reponse en anglais.
Valery (Lyon, France) writes:
24-03-2015 16:33
hm
Arrête de te prendre la tête;)
Une seule personne peut modifier ici les réponses, et c'est l'administrateu r. S'il à traduit la tienne en anglais, c'est sans doute pour te faire comprendre que la prochaine fois, faut utiliser l'anglais. C'est son site, c'est son argent, il fait ce qu'il veut.
Author: Nicolas (Nanterre, France), 13-03-2015 16:07 Like Sympa, mais avec une faiblesse... ... Well, I promise, next time I will not wait armored troops "Discord" returns in week 2 day 5, next to the starting castle. Because despite his 14 Phoenix, it is quite prenable at this level of the game ... Too bad, because without that, it was great party, and the story is actually nice (the beginning, at least).
Card won in just 1 week and 5 days, then, and for good measure, in 4 different game configurations.
Some ideas to improve things ...
- Either make Discord can pass the guarded gates north of the position where it appears in Week 2 Day 5 (not enable the person to appear only week 2 day 6, going a chouilla paras example)
- Either place another door guarded (dark blue or black, for example, since Discord can cross but not us) between our positions and those of Discord
- Or really increase his troops, so that it no longer beatable (even strokes Meteor Showers) at this stage (but it would be really annoying from the point of view of the player ... XD)
Now, I promise, I'll play regularly, just to see what happens. ^^
Nicolas (Nanterre, France) writes:
13-03-2015 16:09
vote...
... sniff, my comment goes, but not my vote ... I put between 6 and 7. But coming from me, it's already a great note. ^^
Nicolas (Nanterre, France) writes:
13-03-2015 16:18
Ah si...
...note prise en compte, finalement. XD
Author: Colonel Scud (Paris, France), 18-08-2013 17:51 Une bonne surprise Malgré un titre peu engageant j'ai été agréablement surpris. Force est de constater que cette carte est excellente et bien bien construite (quoi qu'un peu difficile). Mention spéciale pour le soin apporté à l'écriture . L'histoire est plaisante, les textes sont drôles donc on pardonnera bien volontiers les quelques fautes d'orthographe qui se sont inopinément glissées ça et là.
Author: frank (quebec canada), 17-05-2013 07:33 wow vraiment bonne map
Author: Brad (USA), 23-08-2009 14:59 wonderful map only thing is that sometimes it bugs and the hero to be killed stop to move so that it become too easy...
Author: Angren (Moscow, Russia), 07-05-2009 00:47 Like My Favorite Map This is simply one of the best HoM&M 3 map. Despite of it being french, it very interesting to play, because of fantstic detalization and non-standart level of difficulty.
Adrian writes:
28-01-2013 19:03
Hey
i dont know where is the key master to pass anyone can help me please ?
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