One person once has lost consciousness!! But having regained consciousness it(he) has come to be in not a familiar place on the horse and with army!! It(he) should begin life anew!!
Author: Valery (France), 04-08-2011 23:50 Like laurelmynd I assure you that the WOG version I uploaded is pure SOD, having every WoG feature disabled. Believe me, I know how to do that.
Your bug is not one, you can summon a boat when being at 102/198/1 (near the behemots). Are there others?
Author: Laurelynd (Sofia, Bulgaria), 04-08-2011 23:48 @Valery That's the only bug I've encountered so far. Can't attest if there's any others, as obviously I've reached this far only. The issue may not even be present under WoG, as albeit disabling all scrips and stuff, in some ways that expansion-would-be behaves rather differently than the original games. That's why I only play in WoG maps that originaly have been designed by their creators to be enjoyed there. I would suggest fixing the bug(s) with the original editor and keeping the map in SoD form.
Author: Laurelynd (Sofia, Bulgaria), 04-08-2011 23:30 @Blue Orb Thanks for your response, I was kind of hoping you may reply, as from your previous postings it sounded like you have finished the map, albeit with the help of the Wings.
Would you mind sharing something more in regards to the strategy you applied in the battle against the azures? I have gathered nearly 3K AA and 5K zealots, which could easily substitute with 10K marksmen or 1.3K titans, if the need would be. Already tried different combos with other stacks, to tank some of the initial damage, but the most I managed to survive was 7 or 8 turns at best.
Meanwhile, I'll keep beating the bushes in-game and around the editor, to see if I can re-discover how you and attackernone managed to circumnavigate that annoying bug.
Author: Valery (France), 04-08-2011 23:14 Like Bugs Can anyone make a list of bugs/crashes and load a save? I am able to fix them for a wog version. So far, the bug of Laurent isn't one, you are able to summon a boat.
Author: Blue Orb (Sofia,Bulgaria), 04-08-2011 22:58 @Laurelynd 2 things:
First-You should be able to get Angel wings with about 1000+ AA and corresponding number of archers
Second-I also remember that bug, but like attackernone says there was a way to overcome this bug at 4,102,0. I'm sure that I failed at some artiffact finding later than that spot, so was forced to use AW.
Good luck and if I remember how was able to proceed will let you know.
Author: Valery (France), 04-08-2011 22:48 Like WOG/SOD I uploaded a WoG version here:
http://www.multiuplo ad.com/YJK6CV7DSJ
I DISABLED all wog scripts except "no week of creatures", this means you will play a 100% SOD map but without the creatures spawn blocking areas bug.
Author: Laurelynd (Sofia, Bulgaria), 04-08-2011 22:44 @Storm The Orb is at 45,52,0 - in the underground cave just south of Tibotrin, go behind the Magic Spring (that's where the Shackles used to be) and summon boat, then sail west until you hit it.
It's too early for Qui-Gon Jinn, you'll have to explore that path at a much later time. It's kind of hard to tell where you shoul go next just from your screenshot, as the other layer of the map is not visible. Have you already captured the 2 orange Dungeon cities or have you defeated the Gods of Earth, Air, Water and Fire?
Author: Storm (Ukraine), 04-08-2011 21:56 @attackernone & @Laurelynd Guys, could you give coordinates for Orb of Vulnerability? I already forgot where I got shackles of war.
Btw, I'm stuck again and need to kill Qui-Gon Jinn, but I can't find where to go further :X http://i54.tinypic.c om/2q2qtq9.png
Author: Laurelynd (Sofia, Bulgaria), 04-08-2011 21:18 @attackernone & tevez Heheh, that's the Orb of Vulnerability, I've missed that one. (%With this baby some battles would definitely be easier and that's probably the answer to tevez's problem with the titans, as Forgetfulness and Blind could make a world of difference there.
The map is truly one of the most entertaining and well made creations for H3 ever, and we're talking about a game with 12 years of mapmaking history here. Which makes me really sad that I would not be able to finish it, at least not without some alteration in the editor and restart.
The only solution to the crash bug issue I was able to think of, would be the Angel Wings, however the only set I spied in the editor is held by the hero Dart Angel and requires overwhelming the 63K+ azure and crystal dragons at 65,41,0 - so far I see no way of achieving such a feat. Does anyone, perchance, know of another set somewhere?
Author: tevez (vietnam), 04-08-2011 20:35 Titan Master How to defeat him, he has 5k titan :(?
Author: attackernone (Netherlands), 04-08-2011 19:19 The big Question(s) ? Or maybe there was another path...
Something like that
Author: attackernone (Netherlands), 04-08-2011 19:17 The big Question(s) ? Hi there,
I've played this map a long time ago, and it's one of the best maps ever. It's truly genius.
@Everybody
The fights are difficult, but there is an artifact which helps you A LOT. You can find it to the left of the shackles of war in the flowers. You need to summon a boat there.
@Laurelynd
I also searched frustatingly for the hidden whirlpool, which was completely new idea for that time, truly genius again ... but frustrating :)
Also I remember the crash thing, and I believe you can pass it somehow by using water walk or summon boat. I'll look later into this.
Author: Laurelynd (Sofia, Bulgaria), 04-08-2011 18:15 @Storm I didn't figure it out - another player did it and posted in one of the earlier discussions here. I remembered his comment when I got to that part of the map myself.
BTW, I'm not sure if defeating Hell Boy serves any practical purpose at all. I never encountered any quest guard or seer's hut asking for his demise, at least as far as I went in the game. Sadly, I'm presently stuck and will probably never finish it, due to that annoying crash bug... )%
Author: Storm (Ukraine), 04-08-2011 17:54 @Laurelynd Thanks, you are my savior :) I don't know how you figured it out, because even in map editor I couldn't find that whirpool.
Author: Laurelynd (Sofia, Bulgaria), 04-08-2011 17:35 @Storm That's probably the most frustrating stage of the game. (% There's a hidden whirlpool west of Gin's Town, at 84,54,0. It's roughly in the middle of that magic plains area, between the Arena and the Marletto Tower. You should board a boat and move your cursor around, until it becomes highlighted, in order to spot it. Damn tricky, I know. (%
Author: Storm (Ukraine), 04-08-2011 17:01 Where is guard which asks you to deal with Hell Boy? So Im stuck again, killed Hell Boy and don't know where to go next :( Can anyone plz help me out? I'm stuck here http://i51.tinypic.c om/6t305j.png
Author: Laurelynd (Sofia, Bulgaria), 04-08-2011 14:43 To anyone who has completed the map... I've encountered a rather misfortunate issue - the game crashes when triggering the event at 4,102,0. It's in a narrow passage between some rocks in the sea, so there is no option to steer away from it. There's no way to summon a boat from the shore, as the clearance is too tight due to some shrubbery, so the hero will have to Water Walk to a landing spot to the north. After stepping on the event tile, the game tries to generate a naval battle with some monsters, presuming that Liner Vister is on a boat. That not being the case, the whole system goes hiwired and the game crashes to the desktop.
This unfortunate event lies on the main quest path, so there is no way to skip it and go in another direction. If anyone has reached the end of the game, please share your experience how did you manage to overcome it.
Author: Storm (Ukraine), 03-08-2011 22:57 @Laurelynd Thanks a lot! What a fail from me, it would be so much easier to play the map if I found 1st tome earlier :) I have seen there were an artefact lying there in the beginning, but couldnt figure out how to obtain it. If only I knew its the tome :)
Author: Laurelynd (Sofia, Bulgaria), 03-08-2011 22:38 To everyone who is in dire need for TP... The spell is banned from the map, you're never going to get it from a castle.
Nevertheless, there are 2 Tomes of Earth, the 1st one (50,65,0) you should obtain in the first weeks of your gameplay - it's right behind the subterranean gate south of your capitol Tibotrin. It's in the underground and is only accessible by water, so you should get hold of the Admiral's Hat first, in order to reach it.
This one will serve you faithfully until you have to give it to a quest guard later on. Don't despair though, as you should find a replacement shortly thereafter, at 4,53,1 - that's the 2nd copy, cited by Vietnam. The spot is behind the gold mine on a small island south of Titan's House
Author: Storm (Ukraine), 03-08-2011 20:53 About not having Town Portal I've opened the map with a h3 map editor and saw that in every castle you have a chance to get town portal when building guild of mages level 4, but I guess I'm not lucky enough :(
Author: An (Moscow, Russia), 03-08-2011 20:43 50 peasants @Storm
I am also stuck here.
Author: Storm (Ukraine), 03-08-2011 20:17 @Vietnam 1) What do you mean by 'another'? Where is 1st one?
2) I found it through map editor at 4,53,1, but how am I supposed to get there? Im stuck here right now http://i56.tinypic.c om/4h87j4.jpg
Author: Vietnam (vietnam), 03-08-2011 19:49 @storm there is another tomb of earth at 4,53,1
Author: Storm (Ukraine), 03-08-2011 15:50 @Laurelynd Thanks for your advice, it helped.
But now I'm stuck as an user is. I don't have Town Portal spell, but I somehow need 50 peasents to get further. In other words I'm stuck at one place. Any help please?
Author: Popas (Lithuania), 03-08-2011 12:33 @Laurelynd My english very bad :)
Priston: 135 11 0 use Water Walk, go to 130 8 0, next day use Water Walk and go to 132 1 0...
Author: Laurelynd (Sofia, Bulgaria), 03-08-2011 12:07 @Popas That's the Water Walk scroll, already got it. On what spot of the island should he stand and cast the spell, in order to use it, though? It seems to me that there is no access to water whatsoever...
Author: Laurelynd (Sofia, Bulgaria), 03-08-2011 11:46 @Popas I'm currently stuck at the same stage of the game. After checking the editor, it appears that the Sash is going to be bestowed after an event located next to Angel City. The real question for me is how to get there. Moreover, it appears that the quest guard to grant access to that city requires the presence of Pristan, who is presently stranded at the small swampy island where LinDer used to be... Please give an advice how to get him out of there, as there doesn't appear to be any suitable spot on the island to either Water Walk away or summon a boat.